Logistics
Place
Working meeting place and pricing – Celia Brown, with Elaine
• Ideas: The Garrison Institute
Open Conference place and pricing – Lauren Tenney and Nazlim Hagman
• Ideas: NYU Kimble Center, Columbia Phys & Surgeons Hall, CUNY Grad Center (but no fees to be charged allowed…?)
Fiduciary Responsibility -- The Empowerment Center will act as the pass-through for funds, Jim Rye
Ushering, Printing
Also The Empowerment Center, Jim Rye
Advertising
Jim, Lauren, Nazlim
Desktop Publishing Shoshanna
Content
Peter Stastny, Jasna Russo, Ron Bassman, Kim Hopper , Laurie Ahern, Karyn Baker, Rabea Chaudhary, Nazlim Hagmann, Constance Packard, Lauren Tenney, Peter Lehmann
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I think there is a phone call scheduled for the content group, which should probably be renamed as the Program Group, for 5/4 from 3-4PM. There are probably too many people in this group, and I only heard back from a few. Please respond asap if you can be on this call. Peter Lehmann has been added to the group.
ReplyDeleteI remember this as well. That the 5/4 is only for the prgram group, but we came up with another time to meet for the bigger group. Lauren might remember the tiem and date for it.
ReplyDeleteNazlim
the face-to-face planning meeting is on May 18 from 4-6 at the Graduate Center, CUNY, 365 Fifth Avenue, 6th floor thesis room, psychology department
ReplyDeleteHi Everyone
ReplyDeleteHere are the notes from the teleconference ... there's a lot of good stuff in them.
Anyone have the final list of who was in attendance, or other notes, that's great .. ~~Lauren
We want feedback from people in the system but also from professionals - psychiatrists
Should we have people in faculty who may not agree with us?
Can we get some people who can work with us?
THIS IS IN NY -
issues of the big city
involuntary outpatient commitment
people who are setting policy
City level - advertisement
end of conference invite people to give feedback from their vantage point (open mic?)
open comments
is this all about NYS it could be problematic.
Should use NY as an example - or case study
resist inviting policy makers to speak unless somebody really specific.
Develop research around alternatives to IOC
sharing what we have done
what can we undertake and accomplish
build on work in original proposal in the public day of the conference
Don't see a problem addressing alternatives generally as it relays to IOC or human rights and other rights issues.
We should be doing this.
It can be used as a background, a case study, alternatives as an alternative to down the road . .what can happen if a drastically alternative course is not taken at first break (long term institutionalization, psychiatric drugs, potentially restraint, seclusion, ECT, forced treatment ... not to mention years of life wasted in the system, not having access to personal or social capital.... denials of freedoms as described by Sen)
As it relates to the overarching theme of alternatives, forced treatment,
In some places other than New York, if someone has a first break they don't get forced treatment
they may be invited into the hospital
first break is not always followed by forced treatment -
If we start talking about alternative responses to early responses to first break this will be more inclusive.
this outlines a very different path - not coercion, not compliance, but a really different opprotuntiy from the get go - and of course that involves human rights and treatmet - but as a scene - can we imagine a very different trajectory
It would be good to involve some college counseling center
E-mails from parents typical first break - hospitalized, goes home, no more school,
The colleges are in crisis about what to do
There's no one tor epresent the Center on the call.
We're collaborating with them - so their viewpoint is going to have to be integrated into this as well.
Other issue that is going to come up and is very important - why obvious , a lot of people struggle when things come up.
Very controversial - what if we get big people to talk - a different way - - - open dialogue - no coercion, less medication - a subject of family involvement as an alternative way of dealing with it - some people from NAMI or something -
Family involvement is necessary but should have several tracks
TRACKS
About Sen, talks about Frredom and Unfreedom - (talked about non-linear mediated web model of Sen Unfreedoms (denial of participation in the market, full lifespan, human and civil rights, free communication, etc. and then replace "unfreedom" as the center of the model with "Psychiatric Inmate" and it's all the same things). This can be drawn in around how the capities approach responds to crisis and first breaks.
What about alternatives to practices around first break?
What do we know from subjective recovery experiences, first episodes about the first break?
What can be said about family involvement and self determination?
This is a lot for one day
One possibility to make these worthy themes of focus of the two days but ensure that we can generate revenue for the one day .
The best there is reflecting the two days while bringing in enough people to support the third.
Agree but don't forget, these are early ideas
Around early psychosis - currently there is a lot of interest in the field .
That itself is going to bring a lot of people
If the whole third day is only about early psychosis that is a problem.
Something about community?
A lot of opportunities for recovery but also for coercion and bad practice: suicide and crisis are big topics of importance dealing with alternatives.
Approaches to crisis in general - something about the whole community being brought in - but overarching thing that - l ike at this last conference there was a lot of stuff about community and crisis
Add something about culture, and family involvement.
Cannot just uise a middle class family white family as an example.
The four tracks out of the papers, split the afternoon or the mornig
Two segments on one of the papers, choose two tracks to attend .
Tracks are sometimes limiting.
We should be taping/videoing and selling this stuff
Even if we only have a one day 9-6 is a long day (?) - 2 panels for a plenary 1 in the morning to 4 workshps
come back 2nd plenary 4 workshops and a closing .
A big audience is powerful - we can do twice, or three times, strong speakers should have a chance to speak to the whole group
Including a part for people to respond
2 1 hour sessions and
1 2 hour session .
9-10:30 Plenary
10:30 - 10:45 Break/Networking
10:45 - 1230 4 tracks
lunch
1:30 - 3 plenary
3: 15 - 5:00 tracks
5:00 closng followed by cocktail hour
We should all try to use the blog Seana set up =- it's easy . .
Our next call - -
3-4 Conference call on May 18th
Things that need to be discussed:
Location possibility - building at NYU - it's nice -
May be able to get a deal -
People are sending out requests for rates
Reduced rate because of the Center?
Suggestion; even if not urban/rural - moving the retreat conference rurally might be more expensive.
People may be distracted by the city and not attend. .
Need to figure out.
Thanks everybody.